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News/Business. Erin Burnett. (2012)

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  CNN    Erin Burnett Out Front    News/Business.  
   Erin Burnett.  (2012)  

    December 26, 2012
    11:00 - 11:59pm PST  

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andy cohen's "watch what happens live." >> show me how to use the shake weight and you get the point. >> he gets the point. >> i think lost the game but i like to believe i won a small victory for dignity that day. i suppose i should be thankful he didn't try to get me to recreate the korean horse riding machine on life television. the olympics are going on. people want to get in shape. we are doing a public service letting you know you do not necessarily have to join a gym or ride a horse just get your finest equipment
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"outfront" next, just six days until we all fall over the fiscal cliff and tonight, there's no action on capitol hill. will that change by the end of the year? tonight, two congressmen come "outfront" to talk specifics. plus, arizona's attorney general backs a plan reminiscent of the nra to arm school principles. does more guns in schools begin to add up? and the biggest political fumbles. the best of the worst from our politicians. i'm in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, christmas is over. washington get back to work. the countdown is on. the clock is ticking. you've got six days to prevent this country from going over the fiscal cliff and today at least, we didn't see any action. nothing. nothing, nada. now, i'm not trying to be a grinch here. i hope everyone's had a merry,
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merry christmas. just like the president prescribed. >> drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols. >> but today's the 26th. you've drunk, you eaten and you've sung. now is the time for action. the latest news out of washington tonight, treasury secretary tim geithner told congress that the country will hit the debt ceiling on december 31st, new year's eve, some two months earlier than expected. but there is still no date yet on when the house of representatives will be called into session to veto a vote on any deal. president obama cut his hawaiian vacation short and is due to land in washington tomorrow. but if politicians aren't feeling enough urgency, the american people certainly are. a new gallup poll shows that 50% of americans think a deal is likely. that's down nine points from just a few weeks ago. if we go over the cliff, it will affect all of us.
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if you're a family that makes $50,000 a year, your taxes will go up by $2,000. if you make $100,000, your taxes will go up by $4600. the combination of tax hikes and deep spending cuts could end up looking a little bit like this, over the cliff in a free fall. whiskey and cigarettes in hand. "outfront" we have the view from both sides of the aisle. democrat from arizona and republican from wisconsin. earlier, i spoke to the arizona congressman and asked him what he would support a scaled down deal that the president pushed for on friday. >> yeah, i would. i think that's realistic. i think we're at a point after, after the implosion by boehner and the party not to be able to come to an agreement with president obama. that we're talking about a short fix relative to a new congress dealing with the complexity and
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a comprehensive package of long-term, of fiscal policy in this country. that's what many of us have asked for, that everything has been to be on the table. that it has to be an honest and open discussion. >> you just said that everything should be on the table. the president has made this clear. he said that everyone needs to give a little bit to reach the grand bargain. and a new gallup poll says that 68% of americans want congress, that's you, to compromise. to come up with a solution. only 22% say stick to your principles. now, you spoke out against the president's first off, saying it looked like he was offering a cut to social security, but if his next offer looks the same and that's the only way to come together, would you support it? >> honestly, the support and many of us, including myself, are disappointed that cutting social security benefits was part of the grand bargain.
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it became kind of like a symbolic issue, the republican in the house needed to have a symbol. it was social security. my point is everything on the table also includes derivatives. it includes a transaction fee. it includes a variety of things that are not on the table. tax code issues, subsidies, and looking at how we look at entitlement programs in a way that creates solvency and protection, not in the hysteria of the moment, where something, everybody has to provide a symbol. a grand fiscal bargain is not about symbolism it's about fiscal policy. if we get to that point, yes, we're prepared to compromise. >> let me stop you right there. what specifically would you support in terms of entitlement reform if everything is indeed on the table? >> i would support a discreet and separate process that looks
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at medicare, medicaid and social security in terms of what their historic role have been in this country, which is protection and solvency. >> if i'm hearing you correctly, what you're saying you'd be willing to offer is another commission to further study entitlement reforms in medicare. that's what you're saying. not any cuts up front? >> not any cuts up front. absolutely not. because we're making cuts up front based on a presumption. the presumption is that social security caused the problem. even the bowles simpson commission said it didn't cause the problem. health care, the biggest add to our deficit in this country is rising health care costs. do we need to tangle those? how do they interact with the changes that are going to be set up across the country. is it going to cost the taxpayer more or less? all those have to be in the realm of realistic facts and figures. >> you're in arizona today.
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many of your constituents worked over the holidays. do you think congress should have stayed in washington to work for an agreement? >> absolutely. absolutely. once you know, once the boehner plan "b" collapsed, all we got was a notification, you can go home. we'll call you when we're ready. boehner's got to get off -- the majority of the majority must agree to something. it's going to take democratic votes to pass a tough fiscal compromise and unless there is inclusion and discussion on both sides of the aisle about this issue, that compromise gets tougher and tougher. >> thank you for coming "outfront." >> appreciate it. thank you. >> now, on the other side of the aisle. republican congressman of wisconsin. congressman, you just heard your arizona colleague say you all should have absolutely stayed in d.c. and worked on a deal over the holidays. do you agree? >> i do.
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absolutely. we should have stayed there. i think the president should have stayed there. i think the government should have stayed in place and kept working on it. as a freshman member of the congress, i don't have the pull or the power to say when we're going to be there, when we're not but i will say this, that the u.s. house of representatives has acted. we're waiting for the senate to act and i believe that as soon as they act we'll be back in town to find some forge -- some pathway forward. >> well, a senior white house official told cnn tonight to that point, they said we believe strongly a reasonable package can get majorities in both houses. the only thing that would prevent it is if speaker mcconnell and speaker boehner don't cooperate. do you think mcconnell and boehner are in the mood to cooperate with president obama? >> i do believe they're in a mood to cooperate. they've talked -- and speaker boehner's talked for a long time about a grand bargain, about a big deal, about trying to find
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some major solution going forward. but the senate hasn't acted on anything, so i think we have to be careful on just placing the blame on mcconnell or boehner. without adding in to this mix, senator harry reid who is running the senate and have failed to act on anything yet. >> will you support whatever short-term deal the republican leadership supports? >> i don't know what i'm going to support yet until i see it. the previous congressman you had on, raul, interesting enough, his office is right next to mine in longworth. the fact of the matter is we're going to have to find a place to come together. that the president has offered a 7% solution for a 100% problem. i was struck by the fact that not a single democrat supported speaker boehner's plan "b" when that was actually nancy pelosi's solution which was to raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan "b." it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be
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critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. so congressman, did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the speakership when the new congress convenes? >> no, he's not going to be challenged for the speakership. he didn't bring it to the floor. he decided not to bring it to the floor. but he could have brought it to the floor if they had even 30 democrats willing to say i'll do what nancy pelosi said we should do. and that plan "b" would have passed. it would have demonstrated we were willing to put revenue on the table and got the wheels greased a little bit for a negotiation. >> john harwood tweeted this. he said gop house members and colleagues, i blame most of this on a block of about 50 members who have the political judgment god gave a goose. do you think the far right of your party is a big part of the problem in washington right now? >> i think the extremes on both sides are a big part of the problem right now.
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and i've got a lot of respect for the men and women who are representing voters in their district who are telling them this. but we have to look at a broader reason why we're having members of congress coming from the perimeters. we can talk about gerrymandering of districts and the whole political process that has brought us to this place. those are the type of reforms long term that will get the congress working correctly again. >> it's a great and important point. thank you for coming "outfront" congressman. "outfront" next, after a string of mass shootings across this country, arizona's attorney general is pushing a plan to arm school principals. are more guns really the answer? plus, a deadly winter storm hits the east coast. a nightmare for thousands of travelers coming home from the holidays. and new details on the condition of former president george h.w. bush. now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid.
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our second story "outfront," arming your child's principal. tonight, arizona's attorney general tom horn back to plan to arm principals with a gun that could be used in an emergency like the horrific school shooting in newtown, connecticut. but are more guns in our schools really the answer? "outfront" tonight, ryan, political analyst, roland martin.
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>> how you doing? >> good to see you guys. >> good to be here. >> is this just playing up to the nra or it is plausible solution to stop school shootings? >> it's certainly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are determined. they plan well in advance to evade security measures. and so, the idea from the right that you're going to arm police officials and have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns that's also false. you have to look at the gun violence problem more broadly rather than fighting the last war. >> but there is a disconnect in this conversation. i want to play for you guys a quote from frank lutz. here's what he had to say about the nra's proposal. >> the public wants guns out of the schools, not in and they're not asking for a security
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official or someone else. i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that common sense ground? from a republican policy perspective, what would that middle ground look like? >> my view is that you have to focus on gun trafficking. we have a huge problem with the federal private sales loophole in this country and the truth is there are a lot of republicans who are resistant to closing that loophole. republicans need to recognize that a second amendment and cracking down on illegal private sales both can happen at the same time. they need to move on that issue to be where the country is now. >> ever since the newtown shooting, i felt this has been a one dimensional conversation. it has been based on the issue of gun control. when to deal with and i think you have to look at it from multiple direction. the problem though is that you
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have folks who want the quick fix. they want to be able to say hey, we did something. it was so dramatic, you feel so much better, when that is not going to be the actual answer. it must be pieces. people say it's only 8 to 10%. that's a piece. another piece, another piece. that's how you go about it. >> and lyndon johnson in 1968, pushed through legislation. it's all a piece. to your point, these mass shootings, horrific slaughter captures our attention. but i want to talk about the daily toll that occurs on our streets. just in the last five days, eight first responders, eight uniformed first responders have been killed or wounded in the line of duty in the united states. three state troopers during a shoot in pennsylvania. two -- while he was giving the speech. two firefighters killed in webster, new york, after being ambushed be by a similar one by the shooter in newtown. that day in houston a police officer 'cause killed in a traffic stop. how come this steady toll
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doesn't keep our attention? shouldn't it add urgency to the debate? >> it's not just the first responders. on my sunday show, i dealt with the issue that there have been on average, dealing with the black kids, a newtown every 40 days in the last two years. >> say that again. >> every 40 days, when you take the number of black kids who have been shot and killed, there's been a newtown every 40 days. >> that's important. >> we saw what happened in chicago. yeah, we're sort of used to it. what we must do is look at when you have a mass shooting, that focuses the attention and causes folks to say have we been asleep at the wheel when it comes to these other issues? and we have. it is because again, america unfortunately has to have a major issue. a major issue to go oh, now let's do something about it. >> get our attention. >> i think roland made a really profound point earlier when he was we always want a silver bullet when there's a thing like this. you want to pretend there is one magic bullet. >> there's not. >> exactly. you have to have a
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comprehensive, smart approach. that's where you're more likely to get good results. >> quick take on this. general news in westchester, new york published an interactive map that had a people with concealed weapons on their website. that seems to be an invasion of privacy at the least. >> funny thing. also, you had folks who supported proposition-8 in california who were also identified in a similar manner and you had folks sending them harassing e-mails and what have you. this is not just about gun permits. there's a lot more transparency in our culture right now and information is more accessible. this thing is going to be more common. >> i've run three newspapers. i would not have done this, but these are public documents. we see stories done all the time, you talk about crime stats in certain areas. we talk about rapes. you talk about murder victims. again, also, the census takes data and shows the concentration of certain things. and so when you have a public
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document, and in this case this is what you're going to see. what's what happens when you sign up for a handgun. >> this is an important civic debate we need to continue. a severe and deadly winter storm slams the east coast. it killed at least three people last night while spawning a record on christmas day of 30 torrents throughout the south and midwest. winds and snows are threatening the east coast right now. more than 1,000 flights are cancelled today and alexandria steele joins us with what we can expect tonight and tomorrow. >> hi. good evening to you, john. well, much of the same. here's a look at the snapshot of airport delays. new york and laguardia, ground stop. philadelphia, newark, two and a half hour delays and the predominance and problem here, the winds. philadelphia gusting to 30 miles
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per hour. new york, 33 miles per hour gusts. so that's really part of the problem because the big cities aren't seeing snow accumulation. they're seeing heavy rain with the wind. here's a snapshot. in central park, gusting to 31 miles an hour. all the way from cleveland to indy, 20 to 30-mile-an-hour gusts and new york gets in the potential 50, 55-mile-an-hour gusts tonight. exacerbating are those winds. so here's the big picture. the good news though, we've seen things clear out. in illinois, indiana, even into ohio. you see those kind of holes in the radar, the dark white showing where the heaviest snow is. but see those dry pockets now? all that is lifting out. still wet here along the 95 cory -- corridor but all the snow we certainly saw a lot. so in southeastern illinois, 18 inches. bloomfield, indiana, 11. evansville, 10, indy, 7.2. paducah, kentucky, 4.6. so certainly, a lot of strong storms with this, no question about that. and a lot of snow. but here's where the heaviest snow is.
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the access in upstate and western new york. and that's where the problems will be, albany, points northward. here's a look at snowfall totals. some a little less than originally expected in western new york. it's kind of drying out a little dry air intrusion here, so maybe 5 to 9 inches from erie to cleveland, but 9 to 12 inches here in northern new york, upstate new york and 12 to 15 in the green and white mountains of new england. >> i guess careful what you wish for regarding a white christmas. >> that's right. we saw this christmas two times the amount of snow on the ground in the lower 48 than last year. next, just six days until the fiscal cliff. the clock is ticking and it's not just about taxes. ahead, what else is at risk if a deal isn't reached in washington? and the latest on former president george h.w. bush. an update on his condition is next. trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve.
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we start the second half of our show with some updates and a few stories we've been watching. hawaii governor neil abercrombie has announced a replacement to inouye. in a statement, he says he plans to travel to washington, d.c. to
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be sworn in. he succeeds a world war ii veteran who represented hawaiian congress for more than five decades. former u.s. president george h.w. bush is still in the hospital tonight. a spokesman for the former president tells cnn bush has a stubborn fever. bush is in the guarded condition and on a liquid diet. the spokesman says there have been no dates set for the former president to be released from the hospital. says he is conversing with his doctors and is surrounded by his family. we wish him well. meanwhile, nelson mandela has been released from the hospital. a spokesman for the south african government says he will continue to receive treatment at his home. the 94-year-old entered the hospital earlier this month for treatment of a lung infection and later underwent surgery to remove gallstones. our fourth story, it's not just your taxes.
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if lawmakers can't find a way to work together before the new year, taxes won't be your only problem. milk prices could double. unemployment benefits could expire for millions of americans. the postal service could go bankrupt and hurricane sandy relief could be stalled. so what needs to happen for congress to wake up? "outfront" tonight -- welcome. >> first for you, the fiscal cliff, the world's most predictable political problem. this is the cover of "the washington post" the day after the election saying time to deal with the debt. everybody knows it. that was the whole idea, right? this was the big plan. election year is too divisive to get anything done. just kick the lame duck. so what happened? why can't congress find a way to work together, even with a gun at their head? >> because they don't get along. i think it may have been naive of some of us to think that the election was going to be the magic formula and they would play well in the sand box after
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the election. what's it going to take? i think it's going to take for us to go off the cliff and the american public demanding action. i think we're going to see that over and over again. it's going to be the american public demanding action on gun control. it's going to be the american public demanding action on immigration because we have to force them to act. >> but american public also has to stop acting as if they play no role in this. when you look at our politics over the last 20 years, if you were a moderate democrat and if you were a moderate republican, you frankly have been forced out of both parties, so as a result, you've lost the people who can actually bring sides together and say, hey, i could bring 18, 20 on my side of the house to come together. i can bring 18, 20 over here and we can construct a deal. the problem now is you have folks who said i'm in my corner. i'm in my corner and all we're going to do is have a standoff. >> amen, but are you saying you miss the blue dogs? blue dogs didn't get enough
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love? >> i miss the blue dogs. >> not a question of the blue dogs. again, it's those moderate individuals who stopped going by the labels. the problem is, when it came from the democratic side if you call yourself a blue dog, it was oh, you're a trifling conservative. you're a moderate republican you are one of these rockefeller liberals when the labelling acts as part of the problem. you have to have some people say look, i agree on some stuff. for the good of the country we have to get this done. >> for all the rhino hunting we've been seeing in the republican party and the demise of the blue dogs, at the end of the day, if we get a deal, is it going to be the center coming together again? during the debt ceiling debacle in 2011, after we got downgraded, killed by our credit rating because of this division and dysfunction, it was the center both parties that came together. we had 95 democrats vote yes for the bill, 95 vote no. 174 republicans vote yes. 66 vote no. the extremes on both sides sat it out.
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the center showed up. that's why we ultimately got that done. are we going to see that again? >> i have a different view. i don't think we get solutions from the center. i think we get mushy compromises that are very destructive. >> let me push back on this. >> let me throw one thing out there. >> let me ask you this. this shows you, we got the debt ceiling done not because of the extreme spirit of the day, but because centrist republicans and democrats. that's not mushy. that's problem solving. >> the center punted. that's what the center does time and again. if you look at the farm bill both from the democrats and the republicans, this is a farm bill that is making our food system more vulnerable to drought. that's a centrist solution. quote/unquote solution. when you look at the fiscal cliff if you think the deficit is the problem, going over the cliff addresses that problem in a big way. >> saying no deal's better than a bad deal. >> once we go over the cliff and i come to the belief we are, we're going to all be asking for
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a parachute. the markets are going to go to hell in a hand basket and people are going to start screaming bloody murder. >> if the idea that the deficit is the problem, that will be addressed by going over the fiscal cliff. i happen not to think that the deficit is the main problem but it calls people's bluff. >> how in the world is it we can tell our children, you can't give your way up everything, so you and your brother and sister, you better figure it out. it works with my nieces and nephews, but for some reason, if it works in congress, it's a mushy deal or really isn't going to work. i'm sorry, folks, if it works for children. it can work with congress. >> stop the sand box politics. i couldn't agree more. we heard one congressman at the top of the show saying they shouldn't have gone home at christmas. do you think if we go over the cliff that will be a political cause for vacationing while the american economy and political system is hanging in the balance? >> no, congress will take a vacation the next week. they love vacations. this will not affect any future
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vacations at all. >> there should be a political cost for taking a vacation. >> we should do like we do when we elect a pope. stick them in there and just have them meet until white smoke comes out. but in the meantime just lock them up and have them meet. >> actually, the cardinal, that's probably more than the congress is. when it comes to reaching a consensus. >> locking people in a room and telling them they can't leave until they get a deal sometimes works. >> absolutely. give them bread and water. to afghanistan where violence is plaguing the transition. a suicide car bomb at a u.s. base today. a u.s. contractor killed in kabul on monday. when erin was in kandahar, a bomb killed a u.s. service member hours after she and leon panetta left the base. one of the film makers behind the documentary has seen the violence firsthand and is out with a new ebook, the world made of blood. it is inspired by his experiences in war-torn countries. recently, erin sat down with
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sebastian and asked him whether journalists having seen their deadliest year in 2012 are specifically being targeted? >> i don't know if they're being targeted, but the wars that are happening now are more and more sort of out of control. the arab spring, in some ways i think it was a necessary process but it's thrown open these countries to a huge amount of chaos. the front lines are completely available and open for young freelance journalists to go. it's hard to get to a front line and now, you can just sort of drive up to them. my friend tim was killed that way. >> in libya, right? >> tim heatherington. right. >> i think there's just a lot more shooting and opportunities to get in trouble. >> it's amazing, too, when you're in those situations. i'm trying to remember -- being in iraq this summer, you have those moments where it sort of hits you, the risks. we go through war training and things like that, but a lot of people who are now covering wars don't have that training, right?
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>> well, i would say about 90% of the war reporting is done by freelancers and that means that sometimes, there's very inexperienced people out there. the great thing about that system is in a way, it's wide open, so you don't have to go through grad school. get a job at cnn and get out to the front line. you can just go there. >> democratization in some ways. >> absolutely. if you have the initiative to buy a plane ticket and go to libya, syria, and start reporting on the war, within a year, you can be an established war reporter and that is a wonderful thing about journalism, but also extremely dangerous. >> tell me about your personal experience. obviously part of the reason you wrote this book was because of your friend. you also wrote it based on an experience you had when there was a moment you were in a war zone and realized it could be me. >> i was in sierra leone, at a rebel check point. these guys stepped out of the jungle with machine guns and basically threatened to kill everybody. they obviously didn't. i spent about 15 minutes trying
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to get myself ready for that and obviously, it was a 15 minutes i thought i was going to be executed and it was a 15 minutes that really changed me and so, i wrote about that in the article for "vanity fair", but then later, i thought wouldn't it be interesting if we ratcheted it up a bit fictionally to figure out what happens in a situation like that, like they do start killing people. how do you react? >> it's interesting now in light of the story in connecticut, when you think about people who have that power in their hands. i'm not sure what you think about gun control you don't always think about the power in someone's hands when they don't understand the responsibility that goes with it. >> one of the problems -- i studied anthropology in college. there are initiation rites for men to turn them into men. one of the purposes of those rights is to teach them how to handle deadly weapons responsibly in tribal societies.
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that's one of the points of initiation rites is you are going to be giving these young guys weapons and they need to know how to handle them responsibly so they don't turn on their own people. i think the army does that quite well. i think those kids in west africa, they were not initiated in any sense literally or metaphorically. and they had these very powerful guns. they were terrifying because they didn't understand their own power and obviously in connecticut, in newtown, one of the problems, may be, that that guy in some ways had a weapon that was too powerful -- more powerful than his personal development, basically. >> and the final question about afghanistan where you've september a lot of time. we were there last week and there was a suicide bomb in kandahar. soldiers died, afghans died. people seemed to be saying look, when the americans leave, there's going to be a civil war. things are going to devolve here. not everyone agrees, but this is
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how some think. you've spent so much time there. what do you think? >> i mean, this is the lowest level of civilian casualties in 30 years because nato forces are there. in russia, there was a blood bath in the '90s when i was there. it was a civil war. that war ended with 9/11. when nato went into afghanistan. it will probably, something like that will resume. i think it's probably going to be a civil war. clearly, pakistan wants to control afghanistan. clearly, the taliban want back in. it's going to happen. the northern alliance is organizing itself, arming itself. getting ready to fight the taliban. i think what's going to happen, the u.s. seems like they'll
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leave enough troops there, special forces, to make sure kabul doesn't get overrun. i think eventually there will be some kind of static front line between the pashtun areas and other areas. getting to that stay us is is stasis is going to be violent but in my opinion i think they'll get there eventually. >> "outfront" next, nearly two months after superstorm sandy devastated the northeast, the victims are still not getting the help they need. the reason may surprise you. and the best of the worst political fumbles of the year. a couple of your favorite flubs. i bet they made the list. tune in next. yeah. ted? mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. welcome to chevy's year-end event. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. get the best offer of the year -- 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance.
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our fifth story, "outfront" tonight, a look at the top five political fumbles of 2012. these were the gaffes that got
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us talking and some may have had an impact on the outcome of the election. roland martin. >> if i do that my nails will break. >> we try to reduce damage on set. we're going to do starting number five, this is the number five political fumble of 2012. let's watch and get your reaction. >> i had the chance to pull together a cabinet and all of the applicants seemed to be men. and i went to my staff and i said how come all the people for these jobs are all men? and they said these are the people that have the qualifications? i said gosh, can't we find some women that are also qualified? we took a concerted effort to find women who had backgrounds to become qualified. i went to a number of women's groups and said can you help us find folks.
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they brought us all binders full of women. >> binders full of women. that left a mark. you couldn't have been happy with the binders full of women. >> i'm not happy looking at this right now. i'm wondering how cringe inducing this segment is going to be. we're going to be reliving mitt romney's fumbles. >> the best of the worst. this could be a very long segment for me. >> tom, you're a massachusetts native. are you proud of the way mitt romney did with the binders full of women? >> this binders full of women it's not a real story. this is a twitter trending topic. >> absolutely. >> it was not in the age of twitter, this would not have been a story. would you have written about this? >> it would have been talked about on talk radio. >> here's the problem we are in the age of twitter. >> everyone knows what he was talking about. everyone knew what he was saying. >> he couldn't find any women and needed binders. >> this is the curse of a phrase. >> couldn't find any women, so he needed some binders. >> i hear they sell them in some
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places. number four. political fumble for 2012. >> does anybody out there think that the big problem we had is that there was too much oversight and regulation of wall street? because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. but that's not -- what i believe. >> that's just not the facts. when the president ran for office, he said that by this year, he would have brought down the cost of insurance for each family by $2,500 a family. >> let me just finish the point. i suspect it will be -- >> it was an absolutely disgracefully bad performance. i've never seen a president of the united states blather on like that. bore us. tell us none of his major arguments. >> he let us all down tonight. everybody who has ever supported
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him. and he turned in the laziest, most meandering, confused performance. >> this one i like a lot better. >> the bad debate. >> let me imitate him. >> i won. >> exactly. >> you are right. you know what, he is never been a good debater. that was -- there is nothing terribly bad about that. >> it was bad. >> listen, i want you all to look back on youtube at mccain and obama. he wasn't that good. that was a bad debate. >> he wasn't a five star recruit in the previous debates. but in that one, he got cut. that was bad. >> it made the campaign that much more interesting because it
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changed the dynamics. >> it sure did change the dynamic and almost cost him the race. >> the number three. fumble of the year. >> so, mr. president, how do you handle promises that you have made when you are running for election and how do you handle it? i mean what do you say to people? do you just you know i know, people -- i thought make it was
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an excuse. what do you mean shut up?
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>> just the palpable weirdness of that moment. >> if you expect a comment on that you're going to get a comment. >> that's how bad that was. i'm out. i'm out. >> i was in the hall that night, i was sitting there going what is he talking about? >> me too. >> this is another thing. hollywood legends are always bad at giving speeches. >> they have a script. that's why they have a script.
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>> kerry washington spoke, scarlet johansson spoke. >> we have to move it on. >> those were good. compared to that speech. >> scarlet johansson gave a good speech?
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.there are 47% who with him who believe that they are victims who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them who believe they are entitled to health care to food, to housing, to you name it. these are people that pay no income tax. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> he acts as a character witness against himself in this video. he compounded every stereotype in this campaign. in that one fumble clip. >> the only thing we can do here is play newt gingrich. we have to play the skewed media. four out of five fumbles were
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republican? i guess they were. >> that's just deflection. you don't want to deal with the truth here. >> busboys should not be allowed to have video cameras when way they are waiting tables. who took that? >> it was somebody in the kitchen. >> the first spot is great and how perfect could it end if mitt romney ended up getting 47% of the vote. >> exactly right. >> that was perfect. but he didn't want to be president anyway. >> and if you believe that, i gotten years of your life back for you. >> and a million dollars later he tells me that. >> well, we are going to do this again tomorrow, but we are going ♪ aww man. [ male announcer ] returns are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them.
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